Episode 455 - Finding Meaning in Suffering with Kelly M. Kapic, M. Elizabeth Lewis Hall, and Jason McMartin

 
 
 

How do we find meaning in suffering without pretending that the suffering itself is good? And what does it look like to bring our pain, doubts, anger, and questions fully into our relationship with God?

Kelly M. Kapic, Dr. Liz Hall, and Jason McMartin bring together perspectives from theology and psychology to explore what it means to suffer faithfully without minimizing the reality of pain. In their book, When the Journey Hurts: Finding Meaning in Suffering for Heart, Mind, and Soul, they wrestle honestly with the difficult questions suffering raises while pointing toward the hope we have in a God who redeems what is broken.

In this episode, Davey sits down with Kelly, Liz, and Jason to talk about how suffering can shape our search for meaning, why lament and trust in God can exist together in the darkest moments, and what it looks like to bring our whole selves—including our anger, disappointment, doubts, and questions—into relationship with God. They also explore how suffering can deepen our connection with Jesus and how God can bring beauty and redemption from circumstances that were never good to begin with.

If you've ever struggled to make sense of your suffering, wondered where God is in the middle of your pain, or needed permission to bring your whole, unfiltered self to Him, this episode is for you.

 
 


"Somehow my suffering can be joined with Jesus' suffering and then the result of that is going to be an increased sense of closeness with Jesus that I didn't experience before."

- M. Elizabeth Lewis Hall


Book: When the Journey Hurts: Finding Meaning in Suffering for Heart, Mind, and Soul
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